Goth And Get Frowned Upon. Yet Rolemodel In School

#1 06-07-2008 08:50

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Goth And Get Frowned Upon. Yet Rolemodel In School

I consider my self a goth. I know people complain about not labeling people. But as humans we cant not help class people. Thats a fact.

I Wear alot of victorian style black gothy clothes , And beautiful make-up.

Iv had alot of trouble in society. People calling me names and threating to beat me up or kill me.  However in school im a A*-C student and has been said to be a rolemodel to the school's younger students. Im proud to be diffrent and so should evreyone else.

In my opinion i think that the media shows to much of the bad-side of people. They dont show the good things they can do to influence the younger generation. Knowledge can go a long way ^___^


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#2 06-07-2008 08:59

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I'm a goth too. People expect me to be morbid and depressed all the time, but although I have a mild interest in death and what comes afterwards I'm definitely not depressed. The media only shows the bad side of society because when someone horrible happens, like a school shooting, it's inevitable that someone will report it to the newspapers. However, when someone does something really nice it goes unnoticed because it's usually quite subtle and if anyone notices at all it isn't deemed as being dramatic enough to be shown in magazines and on the television.


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#3 06-07-2008 09:02

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Yes i agree with you there , but doesnt that show society only wanting the bad-side of everything that can happen. And then the effects what then happen after.


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#4 06-07-2008 09:11

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GothCraft wrote:

I consider my self a goth. I know people complain about not labeling people. But as humans we cant not help class people. Thats a fact.

I Wear alot of victorian style black gothy clothes , And beautiful make-up.

Iv had alot of trouble in society. People calling me names and threating to beat me up or kill me.  However in school im a A*-C student and has been said to be a rolemodel to the school's younger students. Im proud to be diffrent and so should evreyone else.

In my opinion i think that the media shows to much of the bad-side of people. They dont show the good things they can do to influence the younger generation. Knowledge can go a long way ^___^


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you are so right,
there are too many peeps that follow the crowd and are too scared too be different
because they will be put down by the way they look or the way they want to look
it's sooooo anoying cos life's more intresting when we all look different!

why can't peeps stop giving out put downs and start doing pick me ups


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#5 06-07-2008 09:13

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Thats what i dont understand >__<'

People Dont have much manners anymore.


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#6 06-07-2008 09:17

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Sad init
no one can accept who anyone is let it be goths,hippie,emo and so on(only peeps who understand)


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#7 06-07-2008 09:25

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I love the way people make accusations about certain soccial groups.
i.e Emos Slit there wrists -- (:

Makes me chuckle how they know not much ;p


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#8 06-07-2008 09:35

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Yeah,
how do they know they slit there rists?
do they follow them?
and like goths are acused at being facinated with death
somtimes thats true but were do they get it from
i know a lot of goths and they just like dressing in black
and it was as simple as that but they still got called, "death kids"


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#9 06-07-2008 09:39

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I have a intrested in death , i have views on the afterlife as such, But i dont go parading around town what i think sand say of it.

And it does seem like people follow them around to make accusations. I had some idiot come up to me and said they saw me having a reproducing session with a male. It makes them sound peverted by watching . ( Its not true , i dont reproduce yet. Im Still young)


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#10 06-07-2008 09:45

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OMG, if it was me i wouldn't have the guts to say it too ur face
Jesus, what a perv

but that somes up society for ya
stupid twats throwing around comments to peeps that look different
makes me feel sick inside


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#11 06-07-2008 09:47

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It makes me feel sick too.

I stuck up for this 11 year old girl. She was wearing a My chemcial romance hoody , i may not like the band but some idiot in a year above her started to hit her. So i shouted at the  kid and he cried.

People really do need to learn manners. And school is the main place were manners should be taught but arnt.


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#12 06-07-2008 09:49

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Hey!!!
2-3 years ago, I was a goth too...but as I grew older, I realized, that dressing always in black is not always good. Being an outstander is good when u have similar friends. And I realized, I can hear goth music, dress up sometimes like a goth, but I hav to choose my clothes properly not to be seen as a freak.
At the university, there is one guy, dressed always in black, has long black hair. He must be a brave person, dressing like this in a solid, so same world, where the women hav to wear high heeled shoes, simple skirts, 1-2 coloured shirt...but I think later on, he will hav a lot of problem with his style. I mean, would u be able to trust in a lawyer or in a judge who wears so much black and has a strange style?

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#13 06-07-2008 09:52

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UGGGHHH,
secondry school is the worst place
i hated going in knowing i'd be kicked around by 16 year olds
it frightened the poop out of me
picking on 11 year olds i am disgusted but it sadly happens


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#14 06-07-2008 10:18

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I dont think il ever change. People in the court room dont judge you from what you wear. They are around to establish the truth and justice. Most people tend to wear smart attire when attending court and other job interviews as such. But thats just me. Some people go through a phase and try out diffrent styles , and i did. I felt comfortable what i wear. I Dont wear black 24.7 i do wear other colours too. ^_^

I dreaded secondary school. It was okay at the start , went down-hill but i built up courage and started to ignore the idiots who had nothing better to do than pick on me.


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#15 06-07-2008 10:33

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mmariannka wrote:

Hey!!!
2-3 years ago, I was a goth too...but as I grew older, I realized, that dressing always in black is not always good. Being an outstander is good when u have similar friends. And I realized, I can hear goth music, dress up sometimes like a goth, but I hav to choose my clothes properly not to be seen as a freak.
At the university, there is one guy, dressed always in black, has long black hair. He must be a brave person, dressing like this in a solid, so same world, where the women hav to wear high heeled shoes, simple skirts, 1-2 coloured shirt...but I think later on, he will hav a lot of problem with his style. I mean, would u be able to trust in a lawyer or in a judge who wears so much black and has a strange style?

Yes because it's not about what they look like but how good a lawyer they are. I met a rastafarian lawyer before with the full Jim-Bob Marley dreadlocks down to his back. He refuses to cut it even as a barrister. Yet he is an excellent barrister and his hair doesn't stop him from being so.


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#16 06-07-2008 10:37

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Besides , there is nothing wrong with a strange style ;p (:


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#17 06-07-2008 17:31

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Good on ya
it's nice to be different


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#18 06-07-2008 17:34

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Maybe it's ok in other societies. But not in here. U r judged for what u'r wearing mostly! The first impression is the most important!

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#19 06-07-2008 17:44

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I have nothing against goths, emos, indies, scene kids.  I used to be an emo/scene kid myself.  But I must say that I do find that the groups of people themselve like to go on about how they aren't accepted yet never attempt to make friends outside of their own 'scene'.  You always see a group of goths of a group of scene kids. 
You are always quick to assume the worst in others yet have you not made friends who have a different image?

I agree that society has it's stupid labels as already said but I just think that people group together then turn against others no matter what.

I have known groups of goths to bully others just because they weren't goths themselves. 
For me it works all ways.

Everyone needs to just accept everyone.

That's what I've grown to learn over the past couple of years

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#20 06-07-2008 18:24

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mmariannka wrote:

Hey!!!
2-3 years ago, I was a goth too...but as I grew older, I realized, that dressing always in black is not always good. Being an outstander is good when u have similar friends. And I realized, I can hear goth music, dress up sometimes like a goth, but I hav to choose my clothes properly not to be seen as a freak.
At the university, there is one guy, dressed always in black, has long black hair. He must be a brave person, dressing like this in a solid, so same world, where the women hav to wear high heeled shoes, simple skirts, 1-2 coloured shirt...but I think later on, he will hav a lot of problem with his style. I mean, would u be able to trust in a lawyer or in a judge who wears so much black and has a strange style?

I would actually trust them more.... they are less swayed by public opinion and more likely to think it out and form their decisions based on that instead of what others say they should do.

Who gives a crap what everyone else thinks you should "do with your life?" It's YOUR life, YOU have to live with your actions, successes, and failures, not them.

After almost 30 of years being an "outsider" I have come to the conclusion, after much questioning of "insiders," that a LOT of it is just flat out envy and jealousy, after all, they don't have the cajones to be all that they truly want to be, don't have the fortitude to wear "that dress" that they love so much, don't have the courage to admit they like that song/movie/whatever to their "friends."

Not saying everyone secretly wants to be goth, by any stretch, just that they wish they had the courage that these people show in face of judgmental twits and prejudice schmucks and they allow that to manifest in trying to beat/berate/subjugate those free spirits into the yoke of conformity and secret misery they suffer.

If more people would insist on being themselves instead of allowing themselves to be poured into someone else's idea of success and "happiness" the would would be a much happier place.... not to mention a lot more colourful. smile

Freedom is worth all, IMO, especially when you consider that it is one of the greatest things you can pass on to the next generation.

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#21 06-07-2008 18:41

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mmariannka wrote:

I mean, would u be able to trust in a lawyer or in a judge who wears so much black and has a strange style?

My late doctor used to wear black jeans with a studded belt, earrings and cool t-shirts. He was in his fifties when he was murdered by an insane patient. He was very well known and very much trusted and respected.

Also, where I work, it would raise some serious eyebrows if I showed up in something not black (I'm not a goth or anything like that, I just prefer black). My director dresses in flowing orange and red stuff big_smile

If you're a trustworthy, intelligent person and good at what you do, you're fine no matter what you wear -  at least here in Norway, where admittedly people tend to frown upon what is considered overdressing. I can't remember the last time I saw our city council leader in a tie...


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#22 06-07-2008 19:32

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Rozii,
i've made friends with goths and goths made friends with me
and i'm not one myself

not all groups of people don't make friends with one and other
and not all of them moan about them not being accepted in society
so don't think goths,emo's,hippies,"high" kids and so on
grumble about themselves being frowned apon cos most of them accept it and get on with their lives, and don't like peeps reminding them of it.


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#23 06-07-2008 21:16

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I'm not a goth but my boyfriend dress very retro 50's-60's and I know how you feel! I used to study in a quite small university and I had people commenting out loud about my clothes like if they had a right to laugh at me >,<


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#24 06-08-2008 08:33

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I Mix with alot of people and dont complain , however im rasing an issue upon others thoughts , feelings and actions.

Clothes are clothes yet we still prefer our own way in following the trend or not so trend. The first impression doesnt always count. You dont know the person and they dont know you. Talking is the key part (:


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#25 06-08-2008 12:50

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Rozii,
i've made friends with goths and goths made friends with me
and i'm not one myself

not all groups of people don't make friends with one and other
and not all of them moan about them not being accepted in society
so don't think goths,emo's,hippies,"high" kids and so on
grumble about themselves being frowned apon cos most of them accept it and get on with their lives, and don't like peeps reminding them of it.

I certainly know that there are people who have mixed groups of friends but for me it mostly seems to be the people who are either older or who are mature for their age.
But like I said that just mostly what I've saw happen, I'm not saying EVERY emo/goth/whatever will never make friends with someone who is different looking to them.  It largely depends on the individual. 
But yeah, I very rarely see a a group of young people who are friends, with a variety of different images.

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