


It is customer driven.
If so many women didn't buy the clothes they model, or the magazines they model in, there would still be size zero women, but they would not be models.
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If they're healthy then that's good for them but otherwise that should eat properly
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FlexySexyLexy wrote:
If they're healthy then that's good for them but otherwise that should eat properly
I agree if they are healthy and don't starve themselves

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StacyL wrote:
I've heard that skinny models are preferred because of the way the clothes 'hang' on their bodies.
I'll never understand why designers would think their clothes look better when they droop. If I want to see hanging clothing I go to a store and look at the racks. :S
StacyL wrote:
I think the best way to deal with the social impacts of size 0 models is education about health- nutrition, healthy body weight, cardiovascular exorcise.
This. In addition I root for proper, neutral and non-preachy discussion about eating-disorders and other psychological problems. There really isn't enough information sources available in real life.
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it depends on whether or not that is your natural frame
im size 0 myself but eat and train healthily, I always have been
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BellaB wrote:
I think it's sad... I love watching America's Next Top Model and it makes me mad that Whitney this season is considered plus size, even though she is probably a size 8 or something.
I know that a lot of people are naturally thin. but when size 0 is what is revered, then it can cause feelings of inadequacy in those who are not naturally thin... And that often leads to eating disorders. It's sad. All sizes should be embraced. I know that's very idealistic, but I still believe it.
I think size 8 IS a PLUS SIZE. Models, being healthy and on a average body frame are size 4. SIze 0 is rare, I know plenty of girls who are and has no eating desorders. I think that is ALL models were size 0 it would be harmfull, but there should be a criteria about HEALTH not just SIZE or WEIGHT. Some models looks sick even being a size 6. it depends on the bone structure, for example...
Otherwise, size 0 is not a parameter. I normally wear a 4, and some times a 2, dpeending the trousers shape. Size 0 are normally for hip trousers for narrow girls (you know, those that have hips shapped like men and not the "curvy" style) Myself I know I cannot ever wear a 0 no matter how little I weight because I mi femur bone upper end is really prominent and a size 0 never closes.
Eating disorders are not only linked to fashion models... It´s a lot about how mentally healthy you´re brought up (I mean, it´s maynly a psicological dissorder....)
SO, briefly, Size 0 models are ok, from my point of view. With exceptions... but it´s not like being too thin or too "fat" makes you Ugly automatically... 
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lollollollollol wrote:
StacyL wrote:
I've heard that skinny models are preferred because of the way the clothes 'hang' on their bodies.
I'll never understand why designers would think their clothes look better when they droop. If I want to see hanging clothing I go to a store and look at the racks. :S
StacyL wrote:
I think the best way to deal with the social impacts of size 0 models is education about health- nutrition, healthy body weight, cardiovascular exorcise.
This. In addition I root for proper, neutral and non-preachy discussion about eating-disorders and other mental problems. There really isn't enough information sources available in real life.
HEY! a detail to attend here.
I really agree with Stacy about the health education...
Bit i found sometjing about what lollo said... maybe she didnt mean it but eating disorders are not "mental problems" but "psichological problems". there is a HUGE difference. A mentaly ill person is for example, a psicopath, a schizofrenic. A Psichologically ill person is someone with a disorder, dealling with depression, etc. A pshicollogical problems are possible to cure, Mental ones not.
If you tell an anorexic or a bilimic she/he has a "Mental problem" you most probably either freak her/him out or hur her/his feelings
Well.. just saying.
Otherwise. Lollol has her own point with wich I quite agree
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Anqui wrote:
lollollollollol wrote:
StacyL wrote:
I've heard that skinny models are preferred because of the way the clothes 'hang' on their bodies.
I'll never understand why designers would think their clothes look better when they droop. If I want to see hanging clothing I go to a store and look at the racks. :S
StacyL wrote:
I think the best way to deal with the social impacts of size 0 models is education about health- nutrition, healthy body weight, cardiovascular exorcise.
This. In addition I root for proper, neutral and non-preachy discussion about eating-disorders and other mental problems. There really isn't enough information sources available in real life.
HEY! a detail to attend here.
I really agree with Stacy about the health education...
Bit i found sometjing about what lollo said... maybe she didnt mean it but eating disorders are not "mental problems" but "psichological problems". there is a HUGE difference. A mentaly ill person is for example, a psicopath, a schizofrenic. A Psichologically ill person is someone with a disorder, dealling with depression, etc. A pshicollogical problems are possible to cure, Mental ones not.
If you tell an anorexic or a bilimic she/he has a "Mental problem" you most probably either freak her/him out or hur her/his feelings
Well.. just saying.
Otherwise. Lollol has her own point with wich I quite agree
I stand corrected and will edit :3 Thanks for pointing that out!
(And it's spelled "psychological", btw)

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To Anqui - 0 Is the New 8.
A "traditional" size 8 is by no means a plus size, however with the new vanity sizes, I agree with you.
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i think its rediculous (spelt wrong never mind)
they lose all this weight for a job that wont even last them that long
i have model friends at the age of 14 that starve themselves and stuff
it really worries mexxxx
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Well, I think anorexic models give us naturally size 0 girls a bad name. I get called anorexic all the time, and I'm not!!! Don't just judge all size 0 models, only the unhealthy looking ones.
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yes it's bad but some countries now want to bann skinny models. that's good, finally something's happening.



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The assumption, I suppose, is that all slim people choose their body shape through a rigorous self-imposed regimen of diet and exercise, or both. Science doggedly continues to insist that weight is largely a matter of biology and genetics, yet no one recognizes slim for what it is for me, and millions of others -- just another result of metabolism and family history. Nor do they seem to realize that confidence and self-esteem don't come off the rack with a size 0. I ride the same wave of horror, resignation and occasional optimism that most, or maybe all, women do when it comes to accepting my perfectly average looks. When an otherwise ordinary day is punctuated by a well-intentioned e-mail from one friend casually mentioning that she hopes I'm taking B-12 shots, or another who is concerned about the amount of food I eat at dinner, I start asking my boyfriend, "Do I look skinny in this?"
While no one has ever explained to me what it is about thin people that makes it seem acceptable for others to publicly pass judgment, it isn't hard to see where those who do are taking their cues from. The mania surrounding our preoccupation with physical beauty is like a raw wound, and has morphed into a cloud of damning hostility toward anyone who has attained an aspect of "the physical ideal." This, along with the ever-present specter of eating disorders, seems to justify the vilification of anyone not carrying a few extra pounds. If you're not thin, it's tres chic to be repulsed by anyone who is. The media bandies the word "anorexic" about like a volleyball, attaching it to all those without matronly upper arms (thus trivializing a serious and complex mental disorder).
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We need a new way of saying if someone is underweight or over weight. I am addicted to aca and there was a story about a women who was size 0 naturally and she was considered to have an eating disorder for years. When the truth was she just couldnt put on weight and she was healthy as well. I have a friend who is 150Kgs and just under 6 feet but its muscel. I am a size 8 (australian size) and people say I am too thin, but so far to day I have eaten snags, mashed potato, hot chips, rum and coke, 2 coffees, 6 nugets, and toast.... if i dont eat take away or some fatty foods I have dropped under 47kgs... I have spoken to a gp and she said I was healthy. but its scary as hell for people specally my boyfriend and parents to see my weight drop like that...
in conclusion, clothes size and weight shouldnt be used to decide if someone is underweight or over weight. but unfortunately its done anyway
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I'm actually a size 0, 5'1 and weigh just about 100 pounds. But, I have ginormous boobs. I'm tiny thanks to my mom and have big boobs thanks to my dad's side of the family. I can't put on weight no matter how much I eat. I'm healthy, I just have a fast metabolism. I'm sure it will catch up with me someday. 
As far as all the models go, I think they should have all sizes on the runways. It makes the clothes more interesting and not look like a curtain hanging on them.


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actually just thinking can anyone put size 0 down for me in australian terms please??? Because I have just been told by a mate that australia doesnt have a size zero which explains why I have never seen it in shops
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purpledistinction wrote:
actually just thinking can anyone put size 0 down for me in australian terms please??? Because I have just been told by a mate that australia doesnt have a size zero which explains why I have never seen it in shops
May be a 4 for you. 


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As someone who has struggled with an eating disorder for 6 years, I believe it is just as bad to promote being overweight as it is to promote being underweight. Discrimination is discrimination - whether you are making fun of a fat person or calling a skinny girl anorexic, it is the same. Stop judging people on their outward appearances because you never know what they are going through inside.
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I am very thin in real life and feel fine and have good to great health-didn't even catch a cold last winter. Once in a while somebody will ask me why I don't eat more-I do eat 3 full meals and have healthy snacks in between-fruit, cereal bars.
If the model has good health and feeds herself a balance diet, I see no reason to ban her just because some others can not be like her.
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These bans are not a solution to the problem. Skinny models may or may not have eating disorders, and they may inspire some people to be temporarily stupid, but they don't cause EDs any more than this game does. Certain people have mental predispositions towards addictive behavior, they have a hard time processing stimuli, and so they either get hooked on the rush of starvation or the endorphin kick that immediately follows purging. The exponential upswing in anorexia has been happening since the emergence of the modern disease nearly a century and a half ago. Band-aid quick fix non-solutions that are tailor made for media consumption will ultimately hurt more than they help because they encourage judgement, not understanding or a solution.
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AliceLeFay wrote:
I'm a model myself (editorial, not commercial) and I frequently have shoots with other models, they always scare me. My hips are a little too big for a model, so I have curves, but all the models I've worked with.. they were completely straight, like little boys!
I don't think thats pretty, but they dominate the runway, I wish designers would use more curvy models, but they dont. And this way we (the curvy ones) are being pressed into working out a lot, eating less etc. just because we don't fit in the clothes!
I'm a size 0 in tops and most dresses and a size 2 in jeans. I don't diet btw, I'm naturally this way, but I'm being pressured on working on my hips.
It's crazy!
I aspire to be a fashion designer one day, after my career as a model has ended, and I will only use models of size 2 and higher x___x just to show them.
What's it like being a model? Who do you work with?

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I'm naturally around a size zero, so no I don't see a problem with it.
I hate to break it to you guys, but everyone who wears a size zero isn't anorexic or bulimic, sometimes its due to GENETICS. and it sort of hurts when people make ignorant comments inferring that I have an eating disorder or point out my obvious lack of breast size.
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Can someone tell me, if i'm 175cms tall, 51kgs, then how much is my size? Thanks!


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I wish I was one? Unfortunately I have been caught in the you-are-only-beautiful-if-you-look-like-these-girls-who-you-will-probably-never-look-like hype. I agree that there's nothing unhealthy about the average non-model woman who happens to be small. Imagine if the world was like the old days where a busty size 8 was the norm for models. All the poor skinny girls would feel bad about themselves and claim its unhealthy to weigh so much! Hmm...
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size 0 models are inspirational. in today's society that's just what is considered beautiful, and i personally agree with it 
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