EMO BOYS!!!

GemmaK9570 wrote:

hatiiiiiiiiiiiiiix wrote:

oinkk wrote:

wow. you guys are really stupid.
are you like five? seriously.
emo is a style of music.
not the way a guy looks.
get a life and know what you're talking about before you say it.

haha fair play i totally agree with you :-)

you can't be "an emo", emo is a style of music, not something you can be.
conforming little grebs, all part of the [MCRmy] i suspect. nice one

i think everybody has their different ideas about emos. you guys might think emo is a style of music but where im from being an emo means people self harm. they dont always have to be boys. i know some emo girls and they are no different from us. they may self harm and look for attention buti ts who they are. and why are we talking about this, its pretty sad:P

i know, everyone does have different ideas on the whole emo situation, with most people believing that "an emo" wears skinny jeans, band tshirts, converse/vans, studded belts, facial piercings and stretched ears, hair covering your face, self harmers and music like my chemical romance being emo. but in actual fact, there isn't a such thing as "an emo", and if you research ti, you'll find that emo is just a genre of music.

Last edited by hatiiiiiiiiiiiiiix (04-20-2008 12:06)

I think emo hair is hot, and guys that wear eyeliner. For instance, Pete Wentz (sigh)

Everyone is always saying, "People can't be emo, it's a style of music!"
But so many people use emo to describe people now that I would argue that the word has evolved to mean the people in the scene as well.

And it's so much easier to say, "I ran into a bunch of emos today" than to say, "I ran into a group of people that were dressed as if they were in the scene of people that listen to emo music."

I don't understand why people get tetchy about calling people emo when they're quite happy to call a person goth or punk. They're both music based cultures as well. And like both of those cultures, there's so much more to it than just the music.

Sorry about that rant, I'm not trying to be mean. I just keep seeing people saying the same thing everywhere.

In response to the original question:

Yes! All emo boys are hot. But goth boys are hotter! Nothing gets me worked up more than seeing pretty boys in eyeliner.

remember guyz, Down the road, not across the street

cicatrice wrote:

Everyone is always saying, "People can't be emo, it's a style of music!"
But so many people use emo to describe people now that I would argue that the word has evolved to mean the people in the scene as well.

And it's so much easier to say, "I ran into a bunch of emos today" than to say, "I ran into a group of people that were dressed as if they were in the scene of people that listen to emo music."

I don't understand why people get tetchy about calling people emo when they're quite happy to call a person goth or punk. They're both music based cultures as well. And like both of those cultures, there's so much more to it than just the music.

Sorry about that rant, I'm not trying to be mean. I just keep seeing people saying the same thing everywhere.

In response to the original question:

Yes! All emo boys are hot. But goth boys are hotter! Nothing gets me worked up more than seeing pretty boys in eyeliner.

Scene kids don't listen to emo music. They listen to hardcore. Unless they're stupid mallscene or what I refer to as myspace scene. If you listen to a wide range of music (good music) and appear scene to the average person(aka an ignorant one) you're most likely a hipster. But a hipster has stimulating conversation and supports good causes, scene kids normally do not. Both might go to shows. Both might be straightedge, as that has become a big part of the scene and would go with the causes and strong opinions and beliefs of the hipsters. Okay, sorry to not say anything about the original question, but how can I? Emo boys are nonexistant.

Oh and as far as using labels in one place and not in another that's because certain labels do apply. They're kind of like races I suppose, just a fact of life, with a definition, and people who they describe.

Last edited by LulaLaurent (04-22-2008 21:20)

they do look nice but usually they are egomaniacs wanting attention. but some of them are really attractive

LulaLaurent wrote:

cicatrice wrote:

Everyone is always saying, "People can't be emo, it's a style of music!"
But so many people use emo to describe people now that I would argue that the word has evolved to mean the people in the scene as well.

And it's so much easier to say, "I ran into a bunch of emos today" than to say, "I ran into a group of people that were dressed as if they were in the scene of people that listen to emo music."

I don't understand why people get tetchy about calling people emo when they're quite happy to call a person goth or punk. They're both music based cultures as well. And like both of those cultures, there's so much more to it than just the music.

Sorry about that rant, I'm not trying to be mean. I just keep seeing people saying the same thing everywhere.

In response to the original question:

Yes! All emo boys are hot. But goth boys are hotter! Nothing gets me worked up more than seeing pretty boys in eyeliner.

Scene kids don't listen to emo music. They listen to hardcore. Unless they're stupid mallscene or what I refer to as myspace scene. If you listen to a wide range of music (good music) and appear scene to the average person(aka an ignorant one) you're most likely a hipster. But a hipster has stimulating conversation and supports good causes, scene kids normally do not. Both might go to shows. Both might be straightedge, as that has become a big part of the scene and would go with the causes and strong opinions and beliefs of the hipsters. Okay, sorry to not say anything about the original question, but how can I? Emo boys are nonexistant.

Oh and as far as using labels in one place and not in another that's because certain labels do apply. They're kind of like races I suppose, just a fact of life, with a definition, and people who they describe.

I stand by what I said. Popular usage of "emo" to refer to people means that the original meaning of the word has changed. The English language is constantly evolving (or devolving in some cases).

The Goths, as I'm sure you're aware, were a Germanic tribe that existed around the 3-6th centuries (so I suppose it WAS originally used to describe people). It was then used to describe a style of architecture. And then adopted to describe horror novels in the 18th Century. Then a style of music in the 80s. And then finally the subculture surrounding that music. Language is not static. But you seem comfortable with the label to describe the modern subculture in this instance because the definition fits. But the definition hasn't always fit, the definition has changed.

I supposed we should just stick to the original meaning, and say that the word can only be used to describe the Germanic tribes. But then if we did that, then "emo" couldn't be a style of music at all. Emotional is a state of mind, or how someone feels. Music isn't a person, and therefore isn't capable of being "emotional" about anything at all.

And as for "rap" or "blues" not being words to describe people, it is only because people haven't really used the word in this way. If the term became popular enough, then the meaning of the word would change and could be used to describe people. In fact, if you wanted to be innovative I think you could describe a person as "rap" right now.

I understand that you're on a crusade, and that you're sick of people throwing around the emo word without knowing what they're talking about. I'm not trying to say which bands are emo, and which aren't. All I'm saying is that I think the word is out your hands and become something you don't want it to be.

I suppose this comes across as mean or whatever, but that is not my intention. You come across as intelligent in your posts and I respect that. I'm only arguing words and language. I am like a geeky lexical crusader!

cicatrice wrote:

LulaLaurent wrote:

cicatrice wrote:

Everyone is always saying, "People can't be emo, it's a style of music!"
But so many people use emo to describe people now that I would argue that the word has evolved to mean the people in the scene as well.

And it's so much easier to say, "I ran into a bunch of emos today" than to say, "I ran into a group of people that were dressed as if they were in the scene of people that listen to emo music."

I don't understand why people get tetchy about calling people emo when they're quite happy to call a person goth or punk. They're both music based cultures as well. And like both of those cultures, there's so much more to it than just the music.

Sorry about that rant, I'm not trying to be mean. I just keep seeing people saying the same thing everywhere.

In response to the original question:

Yes! All emo boys are hot. But goth boys are hotter! Nothing gets me worked up more than seeing pretty boys in eyeliner.

Scene kids don't listen to emo music. They listen to hardcore. Unless they're stupid mallscene or what I refer to as myspace scene. If you listen to a wide range of music (good music) and appear scene to the average person(aka an ignorant one) you're most likely a hipster. But a hipster has stimulating conversation and supports good causes, scene kids normally do not. Both might go to shows. Both might be straightedge, as that has become a big part of the scene and would go with the causes and strong opinions and beliefs of the hipsters. Okay, sorry to not say anything about the original question, but how can I? Emo boys are nonexistant.

Oh and as far as using labels in one place and not in another that's because certain labels do apply. They're kind of like races I suppose, just a fact of life, with a definition, and people who they describe.

I stand by what I said. Popular usage of "emo" to refer to people means that the original meaning of the word has changed. The English language is constantly evolving (or devolving in some cases).

The Goths, as I'm sure you're aware, were a Germanic tribe that existed around the 3-6th centuries (so I suppose it WAS originally used to describe people). It was then used to describe a style of architecture. And then adopted to describe horror novels in the 18th Century. Then a style of music in the 80s. And then finally the subculture surrounding that music. Language is not static. But you seem comfortable with the label to describe the modern subculture in this instance because the definition fits. But the definition hasn't always fit, the definition has changed.

I supposed we should just stick to the original meaning, and say that the word can only be used to describe the Germanic tribes. But then if we did that, then "emo" couldn't be a style of music at all. Emotional is a state of mind, or how someone feels. Music isn't a person, and therefore isn't capable of being "emotional" about anything at all.

And as for "rap" or "blues" not being words to describe people, it is only because people haven't really used the word in this way. If the term became popular enough, then the meaning of the word would change and could be used to describe people. In fact, if you wanted to be innovative I think you could describe a person as "rap" right now.

I understand that you're on a crusade, and that you're sick of people throwing around the emo word without knowing what they're talking about. I'm not trying to say which bands are emo, and which aren't. All I'm saying is that I think the word is out your hands and become something you don't want it to be.

I suppose this comes across as mean or whatever, but that is not my intention. You come across as intelligent in your posts and I respect that. I'm only arguing words and language. I am like a geeky lexical crusader!

Oh no, I don't think it's mean. I appreciate your eloquence. Words can come to evolve and have new connotations. For instance, "hipsters" were orignally the "coolcats" of the forties who were into jazz and predated the beatniks. The word resurfaced in the 90's (i believe, it could be the 21st century, but I'm 97% certain) in a camel marketing ad and turned into a new definition of contemporary hipsters.

But I still don't believe "emo" style exist, it's so vague as well as far removed from what the term originally meant as it's used today. Okay, all of a sudden theres this flashback of that show Recess, or some show like that. One episode someone made up a word and it came to mean different things for all the kids around the school, some used it to mean lame, others cool, others basically "darn", etc. Then all the faculty and admin. thought it was a dirty word. I don't know how I remembered that, but it's like that I suppose. But the thing is, all the kids knew the word had at least one meaning that was specific to them and their friends, everyone here is trying to give emo some global meaning. If we're talking about music, it's not, and never will be Avril Lavigne or Simple Plan or Panic!, you cannot drift that much from a meaning, especially when the emo genre is still around, though it has evolved, and does not need to be redefined.

So, I guess I'll give in a little. Fine by me if you want to call a style emo. But if anyone correlates that style to a music and thinks they exist together then they're wrong. Only one Emo music genre exist, and it does not have a connected fashion style. And I just think everyone else has to except that emo, as it is used in contemporary culture, does not have a universal meaning.

  emo boys    mmmm           Aw i <3 emo boys i miss my emo friends ...

I especially like it when they've got emo eyepatches. 

oinkk wrote:

GemmaK9570 wrote:

hatiiiiiiiiiiiiiix wrote:

haha fair play i totally agree with you :-)

you can't be "an emo", emo is a style of music, not something you can be.
conforming little grebs, all part of the [MCRmy] i suspect. nice one

i think everybody has their different ideas about emos. you guys might think emo is a style of music but where im from being an emo means people self harm. they dont always have to be boys. i know some emo girls and they are no different from us. they may self harm and look for attention buti ts who they are. and why are we talking about this, its pretty sad:P

ewww no i hate mcr

swearing can get you banned...

does anyone think some people get way too serious whenever someone mentions the word emo?

boo12 wrote:

oinkk wrote:

GemmaK9570 wrote:

i think everybody has their different ideas about emos. you guys might think emo is a style of music but where im from being an emo means people self harm. they dont always have to be boys. i know some emo girls and they are no different from us. they may self harm and look for attention buti ts who they are. and why are we talking about this, its pretty sad:P

ewww no i hate mcr

swearing can get you banned...

hahah then they should say that in the rules.
and seriously dude,
that's my problem
NOT yours
so shut up?
yeah because you're pissing me off what i say or do isn't any of your buisness