What ever happened to just being a kid? The video of the eyebrow waxing was absolutely heartbreaking, and then her mother said that she would just have held her down and ripped. What kind of parent is that? It should all be shut down. It's pointless.

Lulu_88 wrote:

I know a girl who had her 6 month old babys ears pierced.. why?!

Umm, it's perfectly fine to pierce a baby's ears... My ears were pierced at the hospital by the doctors.

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Well, my  mom did it ,because I guess she figured I wouldn't remember the pain... & for beauty reasons.

I don't see the point in earrings on babies, either. My mother let me make my own decision when I was old enough to want them.

I don't see a problem with the idea but I see why people have a problem with the execution of it. Competing in a beauty pagaent and getting dressed up could be fun but when it comes to waxing, tanning and caking a child in make up then it becomes wrong. Not because it's peadophilic (wtf, where has this view even come from? It's ridiculous) but because it can damage the kids self esteem.

However beauty pagaents are a competition and any argument used against them could also be applied in an argument against a young child being a sports person. Nobody seems to have a problem with kids being gymnasts at 6 years old even though losing competitions could have the same negative effects on them.

And imo, nearly every parent on the planet tries to live out their lives through their kids in some way. It's always wrong but it doesn't stop it from happening. If these parents weren't forcing their kids to be beauty queens they'd be forcing them to be a doctor but, hey it's okay to force your kid into a career they don't want as long as they're doing a respectable job

I'm watching Toddlers and Tiaras right now. This is a real bad episode, the moms are all tards and the kids aren't that cute.

Akra- I believe pageants have a LOT to do with talent. The children have to have poise and be confident on stage. The most beautiful girls on the show don't always win, but the girls (beautiful or average looking) with talent and charisma do win.

Lulu_88 wrote:

Yeah but why? why does a baby need its ears pierced?

It doesn't need to but holes put in ears that young never grow over which is pretty awesome. I had my ear pierced (don't ask why it was only one, the best explanation is my mother is insane) as a baby. I can go years without wearing earrings but the hole will still be there if I suddenly decide to put one in.

I really wish my mum had done both ears because my other ear has never pierced right. I've tried on four separate occasions and all ended up growing over. My last one I kept the ring in for over five months straight, took it out for two days and the hole was gone. WTF?

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Wanna hear something stupid.  I started to wear temporary tattoos.   
   I thought it might help me make the decision to get a real one this spring.   
   I'm still not sure about a needle tapping my skin a thousand times,  next to my pubic zone.   I may need some sort of life trauma  to get that courageous.

Last edited by HeavenLeighBimbo (02-01-2012 04:37)

*guilty face*...I sometimes find myself tempted to put the sticker earrings on my one year old but don't because she might eat them if they fall off...IDK where the temptation comes from but it's there and it's STRONG and refuse to pierce them for real because I firmly feel that it's her call about her body and I shouldn't take that from her...that sense of justice is the only reason I haven't taken her to get it done yet.

Have contemplated putting her in pageants but I think it's just the idea of doing a bunch of stereotypical girl stuff with her since she's going to play with my shoes and clothes and nail polish anyway around kindergarten age.
so far i've pictured her in such after school stuff as ballet, the local kids theater club, baby pageants, girl scouts, karate, and my husband daydreams about getting her into dirt bikes or some other ridiculously dangerous BMX sport.

As for the show, no comment.  I tried watching the first two episodes and got bored half way through the second one.

I can say from experience that the hyped up stage moms are for real.  My mother was a pageant judge for a handful of local gigs but quite when she saw a mom b*tch slap her teen for getting second place. O_O

Akra wrote:

Bamboo2 wrote:

I don't see a problem with the idea but I see why people have a problem with the execution of it. Competing in a beauty pagaent and getting dressed up could be fun but when it comes to waxing, tanning and caking a child in make up then it becomes wrong. Not because it's peadophilic (wtf, where has this view even come from? It's ridiculous) but because it can damage the kids self esteem.

However beauty pagaents are a competition and any argument used against them could also be applied in an argument against a young child being a sports person. Nobody seems to have a problem with kids being gymnasts at 6 years old even though losing competitions could have the same negative effects on them.

And imo, nearly every parent on the planet tries to live out their lives through their kids in some way. It's always wrong but it doesn't stop it from happening. If these parents weren't forcing their kids to be beauty queens they'd be forcing them to be a doctor but, hey it's okay to force your kid into a career they don't want as long as they're doing a respectable job

I'm going to have to disagree with you on that. The problem I have with beauty pageants (other than the moms who take it WAY too far) is the fact that it is NOT based on mostly talent. It is based on something completely subjective. They can also be biased, but I haven't seen enough of that to expand my argument about it.

A gymnast spends hours and hours in the gym perfecting her technique and form and strength and balance, whereas a "career" pageant girl spends most of the time trying to perfect a very subjective field. The problem I find with this is that a lot of pressure about "beauty" is placed in mainstream EVERYTHING. Chances are, as a gymnast, you won't be judged by everyone that walks by you on your skills. But people DO judge a lot on beauty. It's plastered EVERYWHERE. So like I was trying to say earlier, if you lose say 10 or so pageants in a row because you didn't do well on the beauty aspect, then you will probably grow up wondering if you're ever pretty enough. Not something I would want to torture anyone's mind with, especially a young girl.

I think that's total bull. You have to look a certain way to be a gymnast. Ever see a 300 lb 5'2 16 year old gymnast? Nope! They wouldn't qualify. Every competition has certain criteria one has to meet to enter, so just being able to enter is an accomplishment itself.
Also in beauty contests they take into account personality, charisma and talent. You can be drop dead gorgeous but if you don't smile, answer questions poorly and give a poor talent show you lose. Girls spend just as much time practicing their routines and working out as gymnasts do.
And really you have to be very pretty just to enter them obviously if your competing in a beauty pageant your pretty enough!
I totally agree with Bamboo2.