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Magazines - time for some new rules?

Age limit?

8% - 10
Post limit?

13% - 17
Content limit?

6% - 8
Worker thread ban?

9% - 11
Moderator approval before starting?

21% - 26
Moderator approval before issue publishing?

13% - 16
Market research to take place before starting?

9% - 11
All planning posts be kept to PM only?

8% - 10
Limit the number of issues each month?

10% - 13
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#1 07-08-2010 22:31

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Magazines

There are a LOT of magazines here, and many are all the same filled with the same old rubbish. It seems not a lot of thought goes into the content, and they are cluttering up this section of the forum a lot (just as they did in Entertainment before this section was created).

Now, I think it may be time for some new rules, and I just wondered what people thought about it. I have proposed some rules on the poll, but you can also suggest other points that may be useful for the Moderators to make a decision to start to clean up this section of the forum.

The magazines are one thing but all the other threads that go along with each magazine is just too much. Why post pieces of work in a workers thread and then publish them in the issue thread? People don't want to read the things twice. We have a great thread where you can say if you want to work in a magazine, sign up there and let the magazine owner contact you via PM which cuts out clutter.

Perhaps we could have only a certain number of magazines being allowed in a 30 day period, and each issue must be submitted to a moderator to approve and select what is published, like an ultimate editor.

I think it is time for a change. Please post your thoughts.

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#2 07-08-2010 22:34

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Re: Magazines

I do think we need some stricter enforcement with magazines, but it would be handy to find out views before I make any suggestions to an admin smile There seems to be at least one magazine made a day (usually by quite a low level/post count), and a lot are abandoned before long.


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#3 07-08-2010 22:48

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Re: Magazines

Well let's hope that we get a good amount of responses and ideas so we can present all the ideas and hopefully some changes can be made!


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#4 07-08-2010 22:56

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Re: Magazines

I tend to ignore them
and when I do accidently see them I find alot of them hard going
I think mod approved before publishing and limit to number of them would be good


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#5 07-08-2010 23:02

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Re: Magazines

ASBObrainboxbint wrote:

Why post pieces of work in a workers thread and then publish them in the issue thread? People don't want to read the things twice. We have a great thread where you can say if you want to work in a magazine, sign up there and let the magazine owner contact you via PM which cuts out clutter.

I liked this point, even if I think an organization via pm would be difficult. Sometimes for example, when I have to do an edit, I prefer reading before the article with which it will be connected, so that there can be a logic. Having a workers page is in this case very useful smile
What I'd suggest is this:
There are loads of sites where you can create for free your own forum. If each magazine had its own forum, with the link known only to the owners and the workers, it would be easier. No more topics and topics about worker tasks, articles, etcetera.
Only the issue posted in this section, and no more.
And asking a Moderator the permission to open a new magazine would be useful too smile
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#6 07-09-2010 15:44

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Re: Magazines

I also think that after a couple of issues, the entire magazine should be reviewed, like the amount of views, comments etc to see whether it is worth continuing it at all.
Or parhaps even another forum section restricted to workers threads, which cannot be seen by those who do not work in one.
And maybe one moderator post which has the links to the latest issues. When a new issue is published with a moderators approval, it could be hidden from normal forum view, and only accesible via the link posted.
Some of the ideas up there probably arent possible yet, but i think it is an update worth thinking about which would help improve the situation.


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#7 07-09-2010 16:15

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Re: Magazines

I didn't get much of a response when I raised the issue last year.

I wholeheartedly support conducting a magazine through PM. If I managed it for a year, how can't anyone else manage it? By posting on the forums, they are effectively spamming, as everyone can see what the magazine looks like in the "workers thread" before the issue is reposted in the "issue thread". It also annoys me that they post a separate reply for everyone's "tasks" and what they thought of their last task.

Corazie wrote:

There are a lot of magazines out there. They take up a lot of space on the Art and Creativity forum.

I myself wouldn't mind if it was only the issues, because that wouldn't be a problem at all.

What really gets to me is that it's NOT the issues. It's "Looking for Staff" or "HQ" or "Workers Here". It's spam.

I don't see any reason for mags not being made through PMs or Profile comments. Could a single magazine owner please tell me why they can't use PMs or PCs?

A lot of these magazines are started by new members, are carbon-copies of other magazines, or are never actually released in issues. To stop the disappointment of members who want to work in magazines, perhaps there should be a few restrictions?

Someone can only own/co-own/edit one magazine.
A minimum post count for those starting a magazine.
A mock up of the first issue.
A content check - a lot of images used in magazines are stolen.
Magazines only conducted through PMs and PCs until the issue is released.

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#8 07-09-2010 16:27

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Re: Magazines

I think that a post limit would be great.Like 1000 posts.In this way the time passes while people make 1000 posts and know more things about Bimboland,other magaziner,so maybe they don't want to make a magazine anymore,like the first time,when they didn't have more than 10 posts.
A mod aproval before starting would also be nice.


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#9 07-09-2010 16:44

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Re: Magazines

I dislike the idea of the age, as long as you speek English properly - if the magazine is in English - or Spanish - if the magazine is Spanish - or any other language.

Example :A ten- years- old can have an English magazine with a good knowledge of the English grammar and vocabulary. A 21-year-old can't have an English magazine if still says "Bimbos is inteligentt" or "h3l0 1 1z @m h@ppy " . hmm


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#10 07-09-2010 17:22

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Re: Magazines

dyenutzZz96 wrote:

I think that a post limit would be great.Like 1000 posts.In this way the time passes while people make 1000 posts and know more things about Bimboland,other magaziner,so maybe they don't want to make a magazine anymore,like the first time,when they didn't have more than 10 posts.
A mod aproval before starting would also be nice.

I disagree with though that we can have magazine with over 1000 posts. I have over 800 posts and a magazine. Magazine is doing well and I won´t leave the magazine.


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#11 07-09-2010 18:19

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Re: Magazines

theLucy wrote:

dyenutzZz96 wrote:

I think that a post limit would be great.Like 1000 posts.In this way the time passes while people make 1000 posts and know more things about Bimboland,other magaziner,so maybe they don't want to make a magazine anymore,like the first time,when they didn't have more than 10 posts.
A mod aproval before starting would also be nice.

I disagree with though that we can have magazine with over 1000 posts. I have over 800 posts and a magazine. Magazine is doing well and I won´t leave the magazine.

There are people starting magazines with less than 10 posts, so I think a post limit should be imposed but perhaps less than 1000, maybe 500 smile

Katiecars the age thing was just a suggestion for an idea of a possible rule change, any ideas you have post them here!

Corazie I didn't even realise that you had done something similar last year! Very glad you posted your points though as all the ideas clubbed together here should let everyone who uses this section have their say and hopefully some positive changes can come soon smile


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#12 07-09-2010 18:35

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Re: Magazines

ASBObrainboxbint wrote:

theLucy wrote:

dyenutzZz96 wrote:

I think that a post limit would be great.Like 1000 posts.In this way the time passes while people make 1000 posts and know more things about Bimboland,other magaziner,so maybe they don't want to make a magazine anymore,like the first time,when they didn't have more than 10 posts.
A mod aproval before starting would also be nice.

I disagree with though that we can have magazine with over 1000 posts. I have over 800 posts and a magazine. Magazine is doing well and I won´t leave the magazine.

There are people starting magazines with less than 10 posts, so I think a post limit should be imposed but perhaps less than 1000, maybe 500 smile

Katiecars the age thing was just a suggestion for an idea of a possible rule change, any ideas you have post them here!

Corazie I didn't even realise that you had done something similar last year! Very glad you posted your points though as all the ideas clubbed together here should let everyone who uses this section have their say and hopefully some positive changes can come soon smile

You are probably right smile 1000 posts is a bit too much.. tongue Anyway the Mod approval is still a very good idea.


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#13 07-09-2010 19:05

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Re: Magazines

I would like it to be 1000, but there are players who are able to establish themselves with less lol


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#14 07-10-2010 17:24

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Re: Magazines

Yes, it'd be great to see what other ideas people have. I think there needs to be some sort of control.

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#15 07-11-2010 12:32

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Re: Magazines

I like that although nobody has posted, the votes have doubled since yesterday smile keep voting and don't forget to add your own suggestions as well!!


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#16 07-11-2010 19:04

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Re: Magazines

oogie wrote:

I tend to ignore them

Same!

They are way too much that I even lose track of which is a good magazine and which is a sh!tty one.


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#17 07-11-2010 19:11

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Re: Magazines

Agree, those should be new rules

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#18 07-16-2010 21:20

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Re: Magazines

85 votes so far, I hope we can get some more votes and suggestions so Mods/Admin can pick it up smile


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#19 07-17-2010 08:45

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Re: Magazines

I'll put it in my siggy to try and help spread the word smile


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#20 07-17-2010 20:30

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Re: Magazines

i like the mod approval idea although i wouldn't mind either mod approval options you put
alot of magazine aren't done very well and abit of a bore to read although i do read some.

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#21 07-18-2010 13:43

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Re: Magazines

I don't even bother to read them as there are far too many, and when you do open one to have a look, it is the same as the others! It is too saturated, new magazines need to be fresh and with new content.

I liked the idea someone mentioned about seeing how many hits the page gets and deciding if it is worth carrying it on for another issue. Instead of adding pressures onto existing Moderators, perhaps a special one could be appointed to check magazine proposals and keep track of magazines that are already produced.


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#22 07-18-2010 14:40

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Re: Magazines

But someone could cheat with their hits. I know that my role-play gets a lot of extra hits when I check on the progress. People could just keep on clicking on hmm

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#23 07-18-2010 14:45

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Re: Magazines

This is true, and I am not sure how to get round that. Perhaps removing magazines being posted altogether, and allowing people to subscribe to them and either have them posted to profiles or just emailed out might get past the cheating!


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#24 07-18-2010 16:41

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Re: Magazines

It would be better if only one view per person is counted.
Or maybe having one moderator specifically for magazines, and selecting only the best to be posted in the newsletter with a link for people to access, getting rid of the rest.


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#25 08-05-2010 19:10

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Re: Magazines

If we haven't got any more comments or suggestions, I'm bringing this up with an admin to see what they think smile


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